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主题: 高級開卡選擇專長,考量低等專長先決條件時,是否能以當前等級做為條件
作者: Kh2020-03-01, 周日 01:31:19
如題
舉例來說如果是6ECL開卡,能否使用5等的專長位選取要害打擊呢?

我知道重訓可以。但是PC問我為什麼建卡不可以的時候,我找不到相關的規則...
弄得我自己也疑惑了。

我自己的解釋是高等開卡其實僅是省去了升級的過程,角色還是照構築成長的。
但PC依據重訓的判例,認為同樣的方式可能套用到高級開卡的角色。

想請問官方有相關的規則說明或FAQ嗎?
主题: Re: 高級開卡選擇專長,考量低等專長先決條件時,是否能以當前等級做為條件
作者: 笨哈2020-03-01, 周日 01:47:09
重訓FAQ (https://paizo.com/paizo/faq/v5748nruor1gn#v5748eaic9r9e)

Retraining: Can I retrain a feat to replace it with a feat I didn't qualify for at the level I originally gained that feat?

Yes. As long as the new feat is a valid feat for your current character, you can retrain the old feat and replace it with the new feat.

For example, if you are a 3rd-level rogue who took Improved Initiative at 1st level, you can retrain that feat and replace it with Weapon Focus. Even though Weapon Focus has a prerequisite of "base attack bonus +1" (which means you couldn't take it as a 1st-level rogue), it is a valid feat for your current level (3rd), and is therefore a valid choice for retraining.

(Note: Likewise, the fighter class ability to retrain fighter bonus feats does not require you to meet all of the new feat's prerequisites at the level you originally gained the feat.)

高等級開卡依然是從一級開始構築沒錯,如果你開放重訓,那就把重訓當作他在六級時對五級專長為進行重訓,並扣除相應的金錢(以及休整天數,如果你有設定的話)。

當然,雖然FAQ跟重訓規則是支持以上做法的,但你的團你說了算。

PS:我印象中規則沒有說高等級開卡能以當前條件來選擇專長的。
主题: Re: 高級開卡選擇專長,考量低等專長先決條件時,是否能以當前等級做為條件
作者: Kh2020-03-01, 周日 01:58:05
重訓FAQ (https://paizo.com/paizo/faq/v5748nruor1gn#v5748eaic9r9e)

Retraining: Can I retrain a feat to replace it with a feat I didn't qualify for at the level I originally gained that feat?

Yes. As long as the new feat is a valid feat for your current character, you can retrain the old feat and replace it with the new feat.

For example, if you are a 3rd-level rogue who took Improved Initiative at 1st level, you can retrain that feat and replace it with Weapon Focus. Even though Weapon Focus has a prerequisite of "base attack bonus +1" (which means you couldn't take it as a 1st-level rogue), it is a valid feat for your current level (3rd), and is therefore a valid choice for retraining.

(Note: Likewise, the fighter class ability to retrain fighter bonus feats does not require you to meet all of the new feat's prerequisites at the level you originally gained the feat.)

高等級開卡依然是從一級開始構築沒錯,如果你開放重訓,那就把重訓當作他在六級時對五級專長為進行重訓,並扣除相應的金錢(以及休整天數,如果你有設定的話)。

當然,雖然FAQ跟重訓規則是支持以上做法的,但你的團你說了算。

PS:我印象中規則沒有說高等級開卡能以當前條件來選擇專長的。

感謝!!
主题: Re: 高級開卡選擇專長,考量低等專長先決條件時,是否能以當前等級做為條件
作者: 灰少女2020-03-01, 周日 23:43:57
我们团的做法是不允许。
房规是:
高级开卡,请一级 一级的来做。
以及 想重训可以,模组里找NPC重训,没法自我重训。